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Hablando como los locos...


Dandole casco a esto de la ley de "vestimenta" que quieren pasar..


Es una copia exacta y fiel de el atuendo que le requieren a los soldados para poder correr dentro de las bases militares. Que casualidad???????


O sea que por Logica 101, entonces somos una gran base (cuando en las bases el limite de velocidad es muchisimo menor) y vamos todos como buenos soldaditos.


No se que vida todo este atuendo puede salvar dentro de una base que es como correr dentro de tu urbanizacion ???


Que data se provee de que este atuendo salvara y evitara mas accidentes fatales en Puerto Rico...En que se basan ? 


En ningun lugar de los estados unidos te requieren ningun tipo de vestimenta (guantes, pantalones, zapatos) ya que va en directo desacuerdo con la constitucion. 


Que cool saber todo esto....y que otros lo sepan...


Right ... left...right..left....



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El limite dentro de una base es 15 mph si no mal recuerdo tendran que cambiar la ley de velocidad en todo el pais !!!!!!!!

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NI EN ESO LOS POLITICOS DEL PAIS SON ORIGINALES...tiene que darle copy & paste!

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Fernando.


Dejanos saber cuales son exactamente las reglas para poder entrar en motora a la base...


Si las tienes..


Y gracias.


 



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Suena Familiar???


 


Policy spells out requirements for Hickam motorcycle riders


The primary goal of the Air Force Safety program is to protect Air Force people. Unfortunately, the Air Force has experienced an alarming increase in motorcycle mishaps in Fiscal Year 2002.


Fatal motorcycle mishaps more than doubled during last year, said Jim Hammonds, 15th Air Base Wing safety officer. There 20 Air Force deaths due to motorcycle mishaps, 11 more than last year, to include, two active duty military motorcyclists who recently died in mishaps near Hickam Air Force Base.


As for non-fatal mishaps, motorcyclists stand an increased likelihood of permanent, debilitating injury, particularly if not wearing required personal protective equipment, said Hammonds.


Because of a failure of many motorcyclists to wear proper PPE while driving on base, Col. Al Riggle, 15th Air Base Wing commander, recently issued a policy letter to clarify and highlight PPE requirements for all motorcyclist and moped drivers, and their passengers, on Hickam and to institute an enforcement policy.


The policy applies to all motorcycle and moped drivers and their passengers on Hickam Air Force Base and Bellows Air Force Station regardless whether they are active duty, Guard, Reserve, federal civilian employees or dependents. It also applies off base to all active duty Air Force members, and to those federal civilian employees performing official business off base.


Required PPE: Air Force Instruction 91-207, paragraph 14, U.S. Air Force Traffic Safety Program, and Department of Defense Instruction 6055.4, paragraph E3.2.7, Department of Defense Traffic Safety Program, mandate the following PPE for all motorcyclists and passengers:




  • Protective motorcycle helmet. (NOTE: Helmets must meet, as a minimum, Department of Trans-portation standards and be properly worn and fastened.) All riders are encouraged to affix reflective material to their helmets.



  • Impact resistant goggles or a full-face shield on their helmet.



  • Brightly colored or contrasting vest or jacket as an outer upper garment during the day and reflective during the night. Outer upper garment will be clearly visible and not covered.



  • Long sleeved shirts or jackets, full-fingered motorcycle gloves or mittens, and long trousers.



  • Sturdy footwear. “Sturdy footwear” does not include any type of open-toed shoe or sandal. Sturdy footwear will include soled shoes, with the foot totally encased. Leather boots or over-the-ankle shoes are strongly encouraged.



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Y esta????


3002. TWO AND THREE WHEELED VEHICLE OPERATION AND EQUIPMENT


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2. The following personal protective equipment requirements must be met by all military personnel assigned to the base while operating or riding a motorized two or three-wheeled vehicle on or off of the installation. Civilians operating a motorized two or three-wheeled vehicle aboard the installation are required to comply with all other requirements of this chapter. Requirements for personal protective equipment are:


a. Helmet. Operators and passengers must wear an unornamented protective helmet meeting or exceeding the requirements set forth in Federal Motor Vehicle Standard 218 while operating the vehicle, a DOT label or stamp upon the helmet signifies that it meets this requirement. Additionally, the helmet must either be of highly reflective design or be affixed with a one inch wide white or silver reflective tape which will extend horizontally around the base and vertically from front to rear.


b. Eye Protection. Operators and passengers are required to wear a shatterproof protective shield or goggles at all times while operating or riding aboard the vehicle. The operator eye protection requirement may also be met by a windshield which is not tinted and so constructed as to rise above the line of sight of the operator when the operator is seated astride the motorcycle in a normal upright position. No tinted or colored eye protection may be worm during the hours of darkness as defined by the CVC, Section 280.


c. Reflective Vest. A highly visible and reflective upper torso garment (lime green or international orange with reflective striping) will be the outermost garment worn by operators and passengers while the vehicle is in motion. The garment will be worn over the uniform by military personnel while the vehicle is being operated but will be removed immediately upon dismounting from the vehicle if the rider is in military uniform.


d. Footwear. Boots or shoes must be worn. Footwear which exposes a portion of the foot, (e.g., sandals and open-toed shoes) are prohibited footwear for this type of vehicle operation.


e. Uniforms and Clothing. When in uniform military operators and passengers will not wear civilian packs, shoes, boots, or other garments over the uniform. Clothing will cover the upper torso and legs. Long sleeved jackets, gloves, and boots are recommended although not required.


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Jose de Miguel wrote:



Fernando.


Dejanos saber cuales son exactamente las reglas para poder entrar en motora a la base...


Si las tienes..


Y gracias.


 





primero necesitas el curso del MSF


tienes que tener una licensia de motora de cualquier estado


y luego te dan el pase para la base


tienes que tener guantes camisa de manga larga si los colores de tu ropa son oscuros tienes que tener una forma de reflecion como una corea reflectiva si estas en uniforme la nesecitas en la noche la tienes que tener todo el tiempo tienes que tener zapatos que te protejan asta los tobillos pontolon largos gafas de seguridad  la velocidad depende de la base



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Fernando wrote:

Jose de Miguel wrote:



Fernando.


Dejanos saber cuales son exactamente las reglas para poder entrar en motora a la base...


Si las tienes..


Y gracias.


 





primero necesitas el curso del MSF


tienes que tener una licensia de motora de cualquier estado


y luego te dan el pase para la base


tienes que tener guantes camisa de manga larga si los colores de tu ropa son oscuros tienes que tener una forma de reflecion como una corea reflectiva si estas en uniforme la nesecitas en la noche la tienes que tener todo el tiempo tienes que tener zapatos que te protejan asta los tobillos pontolon largos gafas de seguridad  la velocidad depende de la base





Hable con mi hermano el se traslado de aqui a una base en tampa y me dijo exactamento lo mismo y el esposo de mi prima que esta haya tambien en tampa tuvo que cojer el curso para poder entrar a la base con su motora... Esto es un copy paste a la maxima potencia!!!!!!!

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Saludos Jose,


En Buchanan (Army) es lo mismo: Curso de MSF, licensia de moto, guantes, casco DOT, gafas, pantalones largos, guantes, y el chaleco reflectivo.


En US Coast Guard, esto es la instruccion de Virginia pero todas la bases y estaciones usan la misma regla:                                                                                                                                                 


 


INTSUPRTCOM PORTSVA INST 5100.7A 26 September 1996


INTEGRATED SUPPORT COMMAND PORTSMOUTH INSTRUCTION 5100.7A


Subj: Motorcycle Regulations and Safety Procedures


Ref:  (a) Safety and Environmental Health Manual, COMDTINST M5100.47 (series)


(b) Physical Security Program, COMDTINST M5530.1 (series)


1. PURPOSE.  To establish regulations and promote safety for the operation of motorcycles and mopeds onboard Integrated Support Command (ISC) Portsmouth.


2. ACTION.  ISC Division Officers and Commanding Officers of tenant commands shall insure that their personnel are made aware of, and comply with the contents of this instruction.


3. DIRECTIVES AFFECTED.  Support Center Instruction 5100.7 is hereby cancelled.


4. DISCUSSION. Motorcycle accidents are one of the most serious of all motor vehicle accidents.  Research indicates that when a motorcycle accident occurs, there is a high probability of serious injuries or fatalities.  The following Coast Guard  motorcycle safety program objectives are established in reference (a).


a.  The prevention of accidents.


b.  The reduction of injuries, fatalities and property damage resulting from accidents involving motorcycles.


5. DEFINITIONS.  Motorcycle: A two wheeled vehicle, similar but heavier than a bicycle, driven by a gasoline engine.  This includes motor scooters and motorized bicycles (mopeds) with or without pedals (on and off road).


6. PROCEDURES.  All military and civilian personnel desiring to operate a privately owned motorcycle on the ISC must observe the following rules:


a.  Registration.  Prior to operating a privately owned motorcycle on the ISC, the operator must register the motorcycle at the Security Office in accordance with reference (b).  The operator must present course completion card signed by a Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) certified instructor as proof of satisfactory completion of the Motorcycle Rider Course-Riding and Street Skills (MRC-RSS) or Experienced Rider Course (ERC).


(1)  When requested, the ISC Security Office will obtain quotas to a no cost (MSF) Motorcycle Rider Course-Riding and Street Skills (MRC-RSS) conducted at one of the local military bases.  This course is designed for the novice rider and requires two 8 hour days to complete.  These classes are only available on week days.  They consist of 7 hours classroom and 8 hours of hands-on training and evaluation that includes instruction in defensive riding techniques, use of personal protective equipment and related subjects essential for safely operating a motorcycle.  Individuals requesting quotas for (MRC-RSS) must provide a current state registration, proof of insurance and posses a current driver license with motorcycle endorsement (where required) from civil authorities to operate on public highways to the Security Office before the quota will be requested.



 


                                                                     INTSUPRTCOM PORTSVA INST 5100.7A

26 September 1996

(2)  Tidewater Community College (TCC) offers the (MSF) Experienced Rider Course (ERC) for a small monetary fee.  This course is designed for riders with more than 6 months of riding experience and requires 1 day to complete.  The course consists of 4 hours of classroom instruction and 4 hours of hands-on training and evaluation.  Classes are normally given on weekends.  Applicants are responsible for paying any associated costs.


b.  Safety.  A motorcycle operator operating a motorcycle onboard the ISC must observe the following safety practices:


(1)  Motorcycles shall have headlight on when they are operated and shall be equipped with rear view mirrors.


(2)  Be alert at all times.  Avoid riding when overly-tired or otherwise not at peak alertness.


(3)  Keep an adequate margin of safety in front, to the sides, and behind the motorcycle.


(4)  Inspect the motorcycle regularly to insure it is equipped with required safety equipment and functioning properly.


(5)  Passengers are prohibited on mopeds.


c.  Protective Equipment.  All motorcycle operators and passengers shall wear the following protective equipment:


(1)  A DOT approved motorcycle helmet properly fastened under the chin.


(2)  Properly worn eye protective devices which are defined as impact or shatter resistant glasses or goggles or full-face shield attached to the helmet.  A windshield or fairing is not considered to be proper eye protection.


(3)  Over the ankle, sturdy leather footwear,


(4)  Full-fingered leather gloves,


(5)  Long-legged trousers and


(6)  Long-sleeved shirt or jacket.


(7)  If carrying a passenger:


(a)  The motorcycle must be equipped with a proper seat and foot pegs to accommodate the safe carrying of passengers.


(b)  Passengers are required to wear the same protective clothing as the operator.


(8)  Motorcycle operators and passengers are strongly encouraged to wear high visibility garments (reflective vests or retro-reflective strips on clothing).


d.  Specific Sanctions.  Motorcyclists failing to complete the MSF Course and the provisions of this instruction shall not operate their motorcycles onboard the ISC.


 


          #


E. M. BROWN


Dist:  List I, II, III, IV



Integrated Support Command                Staff Symbol: (SO)




-- Edited by Raf at 06:59, 2006-09-12

-- Edited by Raf at 07:02, 2006-09-12

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Verdaderamente deben por lo menos pensar que el calor y la humedad hara que la gente aqui se ponga bien creativo con los monkey suits que nos tienen pensado...

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Lo que pasa es que eso solo aplica DENTRO de bases militares, donde probablemente hay cero accidentes, no por las ganagarreas,sino porque es dentro de la base que no tienes break para nada.


Aqui yo tenia como 100 clientes de Roosevelt Roads, dentro de la base todos eran unos santos, tan pronto salian... Otro cuento, yo nunca arregle tantas motoras por choques... Hasta una Road King la arregle tres veces corridas ... Pero era por borrachones... Salian de Papa Joes y se quedaban espetaos en un palo.


Ni Hawaii ni Rhode Island, que son los estados mas parecidos a Puerto Rico en poblacion y tamaño tienen (bueno, en realidad en ningun estado) restricciones o leyes,sobre vestimenta, y en estos dos no hay ley de casco.  En Hawaii el uniforme predilecto son las chancletas, shorts y un t-shirt. Ninguno de los que conozco (militares) que son un monton (ya que hawaii esta lleno de ellos) usan nada de estas porquerias, a penas de que tengan que entrar en la base.


 



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Yo dejaria que estos lejislabestias hicieran esto ley y demandarlos luego por no haber reducido o evitado las muertes y accidentes de motora en las carreteras; una demanda de clase al gobierno y al fabricante de los cascos por no evitar que un borracho o negligente se detuviera a tiempo y espacharre a uno,  tambien la demanda debe incluir al fabricante del chaleco, el de los guantes y las botas. A ver que se inventan.


Un Saludo ATORRANTE a nuestros brillantes legisladores...


                                             



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Esta bueno hacer un sticker y pegarselos a los carros en el parking del captolio... o para no romper ninguna ley ponerselo en los wishy digo windshield wipers... jajajaaja Yuka estas medio perdio saludos a ti y al fam!!

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